Lloyd Pye : Intervention theory and starchild skull Presentation

“For religion, in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. But was the word God the murderous psychopath in the old testament or was he the heavenly father of the new testament . Origins according to creationists say on day one there was light, day two there was water and sky, day three there were plants, day four planets, day five fish and birds, day six animals and men.

“ For science the answer is in nature. Nature can be a babe or a bitch depending on her mood at any given moment. But it is good that she is a female to balance out the other icon.”

“Incremental changes brought about by genetic mutations over hundreds of billions of years have allowed amphibians to turn into humans.”

“The scientific method is all you need to know is that nature can do anything . The creationists method is all you need to know is that God can do anything . Because this debate has not been conclusively settled over several hundred years, it is time to view both sides from a different perspective. Both sides have to be wrong. The truth will inevitably be found somewhere in the middle ground between them. It is not God or nature or creation or evolution. There is a third option.

“Intervention theory says a rocket fish powered by DNA blows out the water the Christian fish and the Darwin fish. But who is driving the rocket? They control the intervention. They can be called extra terrestrials, or biological entities, or aliens or terraformers which is my preference.

“What is the evidence for intervention theory? Science always says extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

“For the beginning of everything: Religion has one word, God , whilst science has two, ‘ Big Bang' . The Big Bang theory is, in the beginning there was nothing which exploded, after nothing exploded it produced everything in the universe. Cosmologists insist that gravity became the force that binds it all together. Unfortunately when the relevant mathematical formulas were applied the results did not conform to reality. Then a miracle occurred. I think you should be a bit more explicit here! Cosmologists responded to these problems creating mathematical fudge factors that massaged the numbers and made the formulas produce the correct numbers. Those mathematical fudge factors are little things like dark energy, dark matter and black holes. Those fudge factors are essential because when gravity is held together to be the universes binding force, 74% of the equation is missing. Eventually cosmologists have to face a grim reality.

“As a force electricity is 39 orders of magnitude stronger than gravity. Even more compelling is that gravity can't even exist without electromagnetic intones. The universe forms at 14B years ago. Gravity is entirely dependent on the electrified plasma that thinly permeates the entire universe.

“ This slide is the Aurora Borealas. That's the glue that binds everything together. The solar system forms at 4.5BYA. At the granular level where it is supposed to be particles of dust, gravity has no power to attract anything.

“ Proto planet earth at 4.5BYA: Only when objects have great mass does gravity have an appreciative widespread effect. If it can't start how does it finish? It has to be the electrified plasma. Right out of the gates, scientists are as wrong as they can be about origins.

“Rocky land emerges at 3.8 BYA. It is produced when scalding lava is cooled by the temperatures of space. Everybody has been taught the primordial soup theory, which is actually a fantasy. This says that nature created a warm pond somewhere that was filled, with the building blocks of life. And those building blocks were struck by a lightning bolt or a few, and somehow that magically created the miracle of life. It is beyond impossible for hydrogen, cyanide, formaldehyde, carbon monoxide, and water to transform into nucleic acids, proteins and lipids to make cell membranes. As British astrophysicist Fred Boyle once famously said. “The likelihood of a lightning bolt striking a warm pond to create life, is equal to a tornado sweeping through a junkyard to create a modern jumbo jet.”

“The truth about how life came to be on earth has been known to scientists, and appeared suddenly. The two types of bacteria are the ARCHAEA & EUBA CTERIA. They are as different as mushrooms and walnuts.

“ PROKARYOTES are complex single celled bacteria. They have DNA which floats freely in their bodies. They are incredibly durable and can live anywhere and in anything. They are virtually indestructible, which makes them perfect seeds of life. Many but not all prokaryotes are anaerobic and do not utilise oxygen but they produce it on a large scale.

“On any protoplanet or forming planet what would be the first thing oxygen would have to do? As soon as the Prokaryotes appear at 3.8 BYA, banded iron formations begin to appear around the world. Iron is abundant on earth and throughout the universe. It is highly reactive with oxygen. Thus before any oxygen can be free in any atmosphere, all free iron has to be turned into rust. There are millions of miles of rusty banded iron formations around the world.

“Oxygen rusted iron from 3.8 to 2.4 BYA when oxygen became free and oxidisation then occurred. When free oxygen finally entered the atmosphere and mixed with the methane already there to create the Huronian Glaciation 2.4 to 2.1 BYA, the first and worst snowball earth… For unknown reasons the glaciation ended at 2.1 BYA. At 2 BYA very highly complex, Eukaryotic Bacteria suddenly appeared.

“Those still single cells, Eukaryotes are much more complex than Prokaryotes. Their DNA is contained inside a cell nucleus. Their large size allows them to create much more oxygen. Eukaryotes were supposedly created when larger Prokaryotes cannibalised certain smaller ones to make a wide range of their internal body parts, especially the essential mitochondria chloroplasts. This supposedly occurred after all prokaryotes existed together in harmony for 2B years. What could have happened to make them change so profoundly ? It seems more likely that this is yet another scientific miracle.

“After Eukaryotes appeared they worked alongside the prokaryotes, for 1 B years to produce a massive amount of oxygen.

“ A protective Ozone layer is built up from 1.8 – 0.8 BYA. If your goal is to terraform an emerging planet so you will be capable of eventually supporting higher life forms you must do two things. 1. Tie up the free iron. 2. Create a protective ozone layer. The Ozone layer removes the great majority of deadly ultraviolet rays. Without this barrier life could not exist on the surface of land or sea. When the Ozone layer was complete the Cryogenian Period began and lasted for 200 M years. The Cryogenian period glaciation was from 600 - 800 M years ago. Was it a single glaciation that lasted 200M years or three in rapid succession? Nobody can be certain.

“The Earth timeline from 3.8 BY to now, all of this has been terraforming in my opinion. It all happens just too well. It looks like there has been a purpose going on for the full time earth has been in existence.

“The earth 600 M years ago, the Cryogenian period has ended, seas are full, land is cool, but there are no life forms more complex than single celled bacteria. EDIACARAN BIOTA soon appeared. They had no precursors but lived worldwide for 50M years. They were morphologically distinct from all earlier lifeforms and remain distinct. They were a profound misfit. Were they plants or animals? Did they have tops or bottoms, fronts or backs? Were they mobile or stationary? Nobody knows. Whatever they were they went from clogging seas worldwide to gone from the fossil record in 50 M years.

“The first highly complex life appears during the Cambrian explosion 550M years ago. It came with no fanfare or catastrophe. It just happened as if someone decided the time is right. Endoskeletons and exoskeletons, large and small species, predators and prey, the whole shebang appear during the Cambrian explosion, virtually overnight. That's not evolution. Everything that appeared during the Cambrian explosion looked like it came from another planet. Intervention theory proposes that it did.

“There have been five major extinction events . 50 to 90% of everything was taken out. According to mainstream science life's engine is powered by evolution. In fact it is transformation by macro evolution or terraforming by micro evolution. Darwin's finches firmly established micro evolution. Darwin established change in body parts, never a change from one species to another. Darwin extrapolated macro-evolution from his observations of micro-evolution in animals. He did say in his book that if transformational species can't be found, I am wrong. Sure enough in the book ‘icons of evolution' by Jonothon Wells, he proves that macro evolutions do not occur.

“For science life appears to move forward by one or two biological processes. One is gradualism, the steady accumulation of small genetic changes over vast periods. Things go in fits and starts so they came up with punctuated equilibrium which is morphological change which is concentrated in brief bursts that very rapidly produce new species. This is what they see in the fossil record. The only way for scientists to account for the rapid speciation is through the new idea of modular evolution. Now this is fairly new. All speciation evolves from the wholesale mutations of genetic modules, which were the general parts of most animal bodies. These were the heads, the trunk, forelimbs… There is just no way gradualism works. Modular evolution is the next attempt to take its place.

“Darwin's abominable mystery, the flowering plant, arrived so suddenly at 130 M years ago. They appear suddenly. Insects arrive with the flowering plants at 130 M years ago. Insects lives for 270 M years as foragers on forest floors, crawlers. When flowering plants arrive, their numbers exploded.

“The cretacean extinction eliminated dinosaurs at 65M years ago. Intervention theory suggests that after each extinction event new stock species are brought to earth as starting points for species to radiate and multiply like Darwin's finches and tortoises: exclusively by micro-evolution. Small mammals that survive the Cretacean extinction supposedly radiate into earliest pro-simians and in turn evolve by macro evolution into monkeys and apes. They dominated earth for 22 M years. Monkeys appeared at 33M years ago. Tail-less apes followed at 23 M years ago. Intervention theory suggests that stock species of monkeys were delivered followed by stock species of apes. Monkeys did not become apes. The physical difference between them is surprisingly vast.

“ The Miocene Epoch 23 to 5 M years ago: There were more apes than monkeys in that period. There were two groups, long armed with arms longer than their legs. Short arm apes had arms as long as their legs. Human arms are shorter than our legs. To locomote comfortably the long arm types had to be quadrupeds', whilst the short armed types had to be knuckle draggers. To even consider they might have been fully upright is totally unacceptable. One of the earliest ape fossils we have from the Miocene is Maroto Pithecus at 21.6 M years ago. Science says it had to move and look like a Gibbon, a modern tailless ape of relatively small size. Notice the virtually complete lower spine bone. The lumber is strikingly similar to a modern human lumber bone. It seems fully capable of walking upright. If you want to read about this in detail there is a book called : The upright Ape by Dr Erin. It is a tremendous piece of work.

“Pierolapitheus at 13 MYA also has a human like lumbar spine. Notice the length of the arms. Another short armed knuckle dragger or was it? The first accepted prehumen is Orrorin Tugenensis at 6 MYA. It is bipedal because its femur is similar to early bipeds and very different to chimps. It is a short armed Miocene ape. All of the bipedal prehumen's have arms as long as their legs. This is not speculation, this is consistent in the fossil record.

“The first group of Australopithecus is from 4 – 2 MYA. There are two distinct kinds, bipedal guerrillas and bipedal chimps. Scientists insist they began the transition from quadrupeds in trees to foraging as bipeds on savannahs and that it was incremental and gradual. In reality this would have been a swift death sentence. They wouldn't have made it, this is total fantasy of how we learned to walk.

“These are the early humans from 2 MYA. They all maintain those same low foreheads heavy brow, robust in every way, completely different from what we are. Neanderthals (lived from) 300 to 30 000 years ago: Neanderthals were very different than we are. Neanderthals contributed 1 to 4% of the genomes of humans outside of Africa. A primary segment of the DNA they provide to all of us, is known as HLA histo compatibility complex . These are protein encoding genes found on human chromosome number six and they fight our immune response, fight against various bacterial infections, and viruses. How would something as specific and useful as that manage to find its way into the genomes of all non-animals? Naturally scientists suggest that it was sheer luck that non Africans had the opportunity to have sex with Neanderthals and the genes we acquired from those dalliances just happened to provide a vital boost to our health. That is yet another miracle:

“And now we come to Cro-magnons which appear around 60 000 years ago. Cro magnons were bigger and more robust then us, but they were basically us. Scientists insist that humans evolved along with everything else. Did we really? Primates have 24 / 48 chromosones, humans have 23 / 46. The 2 nd and 3 rd chromosome in primates have been fused to make the 2 nd chromosome in humans. Science claims the fusion was caused by a rare genetic mutation known as a Robertsonian translocation. Telomeres are caps found at the ends of any chromosones and they perform a stopping function. Centromeres are in the middles and are critical. In the fusion centromeres and telomeres become jumbled… in cell division this would soon lead to a tangled mess and it would die.

“Mainstream science needs multiple miracles to make their scenario plausible. The exact array of miracles required is found in human chromosome number two . Traces of two primate telomeres are found within human chromosome number two; between bases 114 455 823 and 114 455 838. Those 15 are deactivated in some way that doesn't stop the chromosones normal functioning. Only the telomeres in the middle are deactivated. The ones at the top and the bottom continue to work as they should. As for the two centromeres, where usually only one normally functions, one of them has somehow been deactivated so the normal chromosome division can proceed successfully. Several more fusion miracles exist in other chromosones in the human genome and an inversion can occur when a segment of a chromosome is sliced into top and bottom then pulled out and inverted before being put back into its original place. Textbooks claim that inversions can be caused by ionising radiation which causes a chromosone to genetic bond to temporarily break loose during which an inversion can occur which can then be followed by an equally unlikely but absolutely necessary re-insertion. The genome of every human carries 9 of those miraculous inversions and re-insertions not found in any other corresponding higher primate chromosome. They are in human chromosones 1, 4, 5, 9, 12, 15, 16, 17 and 18. According to evolutionary theory each event had to occur in a sequence otherwise it isn't evolution. Let's assume inversion number 1 occurred in one individual. This means all other proto human genetic lines at that time must die out so only their progeny can pass it on. Much later inversion reassertion number 4 had to occur in an off spring of number 1 so that it carried both changes. Now only its progeny could move into the future. And again all other existing human genetic lines had to die out. Science insists that humans and other primates shared a common ancestor somewhere between 5 and 8 million years ago. If that is true then on 9 occasions the above scenario had to occur. All genetic lines had to die out except the one carrying all inversion and reassertions. This is outrageous improbability to a power of 9.

“Within a human is approximately 25 000 genes, 223 have been found that have no analogues with any other animal species. However 113 of the 223 can be found among bacteria. This makes science claim that those unique human genes were somehow put into our genome by a lateral transfer, which means by infection. But what about the 110 that are not found anywhere? Where did they come from, how did they get into our genome?

“What if there is a very different march to a very different drummer that doesn't require a pocket full of miracles. A different march can be seen in the famous Roger Patterson, film taken in October 1967 . Notice the arm length difference between a human and a true short armed Miocene ape, which I am convinced the hominoids are. They are living Miocene apes that have lived for 23 MY. If Hominoids exist why can't we ever seem to find them? There is no better explanation than the panda story.

“In early 1967 a man named Frank Hansen killed a juvenile big foot. In May 1969 it hit the newsstands. Hansen put it in a 7 foot floor freezer and froze it and took it in the back of a truck to county fairs. He was a hustler. He was a freak show hustler. And he is the guy who gets to shoot and kill a hominoid. He could have changed the world right there in 1967 but he was not that kind of guy. I saw it when I was a young man 30 years old in about 1976.

“Zana was captured in 1850 in Russia and lived in a village until she died in 1890. She was there for forty years working as a physical slave doing heavy labour. They are so much stronger than we are. Pound for pound primates are 5 to ten times stronger than we are. The females when captured were also turned into sex slaves. Zana produced eight children with the men of the area, 4 of which lived to adulthood. A lot of people have great memories of her children, particular Khwit 1884 – 1954, her youngest child. They knew where his body was buried so they were able to dig up his skull. He had some of his mother in him, Zana, the hair covered hominoid. They were dominantly human, genetically. These are some of Khwit's children and grandchildren and they are all descendants of a hominoid.

Now we are going to switch over to the star child material :

“In 40 years of practice as a reconstructive plastic surgeon I have never seen anything like the starchlid skull.” Dr Ted Robertson, Vancouver.

“It was found in Mexico about 1930 about 100 miles SW of Chihuahua Mexico. The girl who got it took it to Texas and that is where I met the couple that had it. The starchild skeleton was fond in the Mexican desert with a human skeleton with it in a mine tunnel. There was some kind of close bond between these two people. We thought for a very long time that it must have been her child, her hybrid offspring. We found later that they were not genetically related.

“In February of 1999 they asked me to take over the starchild skull and try and find out what it was. Everybody before who had dealt with this had thought it was deformity. Nobody had specialised training. Despite initial x-ray reports telling us it was a child, it wasn't, it is an adult. Unlike humans the starchild has no frontal sinuses not even tiny vestiges. Everything about the star child is different to humans. The star child has no innim (where your neck connects to your skull) at the rear of the head. Something every human has. Starchild has a dent there.

“Cradleboarding was the practice of strapping an infant to a board to carry on the back of a lady. The bone is so soft the infant takes on the flatness of the board. Starchild could not be cradleboarded. Starchild had a very different neck. It would be suffocated in about 3 or 4 minutes.

“Starchild is not a Hydrocephatic. It has got a swollen type of head. Uniform internal pressures would have rounded its crown. Dr Steven O Villa said it is a hydrocephatic. Dr Steven O Villa is one of the biggest asses I have ever come across. I have been fighting with this guy since 1999. He is the biggest jerk.

“Starchild is not progeria – the disease where you prematurely age, where you turn into an old man very quickly and die. You are lucky if you get into your teens. It thins your bones for one. The starchild bone is thin, but it is not brittle. It is harder than our bone. It has no typical human features. If you have Progeria you still have human eyes, you are still human, you are just a very weird looking human. This skull is more symmetrical than most of our skulls. Only the most beautiful of us have perfect symmetry. The starchilds neck is half human size. It is radically different. It has 1/3 rd extra brain than it should have for its size. A brain specialist who told me this said that ‘that things brain was the same substance and same material as our brain.”

“Here you see the difference in thickness of bone between the starchild and the human bone and yet it is much harder to cut. The starchild bone is full of collagen. It is as hard as your teeth. In human bones you have these little dimples where you change out your body every seven years, your cells change out and that is part of the changing process. All the time there are some coming up and some coming down. In starchild they are all gone. There are fibres going through the matrix of the starchild bone that are like concrete that are very durable. This fibre is totally unique to the starchild.

“The DNA of the starchild is the big news that I am here to share with you. The DNA is made of nuclei types arranged in pairs known as base pairs. In a cell, mitochondrial DNA, contains genetic material only from the mother. There are 16 569 base pairs in each individual. In the cell nucleus you have all the DNA. This is the 23 chromosones from the mum and the 23 chromosones that he delivers to make the 46 in the nucleus. Nuclear DNA is found that contains genetic material of both parents, 3 + billion base pairs in the human DNA. Our geneticist found dozens of starchild DNA fragments that totalled more than 30 000. It is only 0.001% of the genomes total 3 + billion. Of the 30 000 base pairs he sent them to the national institute of health, NIH, the power centre of medicine in the US, for analysis in their gazillion bit database holding millions of base pairs. The result came back in BLAST reports. BLAST stands for Basic Alignment search Tool.

“Some reports could find and analogue some human species and animals from earth. Some reports came back with ‘no significant similarity found.' Not exactly earthly DNA! We were very excited when we got that. But, because it is such a small amount it doesn't matter. Science puts it foot really hard down on starchilds neck and says until your whole genome is at hand and we can count up every bit of it to compare against the human, you don't have anything!

“Human mitochondria DNA has 16 569 base pairs. Mitochondrial DNA is circular in design and maintains astonishing efficiency. Only about 5% of it is junk that doesn't seem to do something critically important to its function. 15 primary genes are very well understood. Two encodes for RNA and 13 protons. Mitochondria DNA is extremely highly conserved. It undergoes so little change over time that those changes are used for the gauge standard of the biological clock. It doesn't change because the great bulk of it is needed. In the nuclei DNA exactly the opposite is true. 95% of it is junk and only 5% of it does the work of our bodies. Each unit of mitochondrial DNA is always the same size. Someone else might have other alignments in their DNA base pairs but the differences are so slight, many humans carry the same mitochondrial bass pairs. HAPLO groups were created to classify people with similar mitochondrial DNA. In most cases they are the 33 shown at left….

“What is Demisova? Demisovans are a new edition to the early homo family tree. Demisovans were discovered in 2010. They seem to have been contemporaries of Neanderthals. Their DNA exists in groups that exist today. This is a brand new mystery in human origins.

“ At left are 62 comparisons of the mitochondrial DNA of starchild and humans . Computers compare them bass pair by bass pair. Imagine if this comparison was all 16 569 base pairs spread across the wall. With these substitutions in the human mitochondrial DNA you have a maximum of 120. And they are found in Southern Africa and the oldest humans are in Southern Africa because they have the 120 max. Neanderthals have 200. Demisova has 385. For reference the chimp has 1500 changes in mitochondrial DNA. And reference the chimps really do go back millions of years. We only go back 200 000 years according to our mitochondrial DNA. Starchild has 17 difference where humans have only 1. This is definitive, however science will not accept it until it is confirmed by repetition. We can't do that without the entire genome being recovered. We work on that getting to the investor to pay the money to get that done. We will get that done.

“We have recovered 4 fragments, that together have 1583 base pairs and in that 1583 base pairs, we have 93 differences. 1583 is 16% of the total 16569 + bass pairs (we don't really know how many the starchild has so we assume). That would be 883.5 differences. The starchild will be in the range of 800% different to humans and closer to chimps then humans. When we secure an investor to help us push this 13 year effort across the finish line it will be much like landing man on the moon.

In the questions and answers Lloyd Pye added :

“ The starchilds DNA is as much as 50% different to ours. A chimp is 97% - 98% the same. Its genome is 97% to 98% the same. All that separates us from the chimp is that 2 or 3 %. I guerrilla is 5%. A rat is 70% our genome. Yeast has 20% of our genome. I believe life is ubiquitous, the same life formula that we have here on earth is everywhere. So every alien is going to have a lot of our DNA package just like yeast does.”

“Sitchen planted the seed that we were somehow created genetically. And if we were, this opens up the window of what else might be. When you really start looking at the whole history of the planet and the solar system, it looks like there is some force or some entity out there that cruises the galaxy, looking for forming planet systems. When they find them, they sprinkle prokaryotes on all of them. As (an example) they have said that they have found bacteria on Mars. Before that came out I was well on record saying I bet you that is going to be there. And it is going to be on all of them because they can't know when the “goldilocks zone” is going to be, where higher life can live, because we live in a narrow window of possibilities. So they sprinkle prokaryotes on everything knowing they are going to be pumping out oxygen, tie-ing up the iron so when they come back in a couple of billion years they are going to see which one has found itself in the goldilocks zone and that is the one they will then begin to work on with the Eukaryotes and then they will really start pumping oxygen in and that will create an ozone layer. What this means is that there are terraformers doing this, probably not just to us but to everywhere. When the planet is ready for life, they bring life. Because when our planet was ready for it, it got it. It didn't get it before it was ready and when it came, it came in a boatload with the Cambrian explosion. That indicates they don't come that often but when they do, they make it count. They bring things that speciate by micro-evolution rather than by macro-evolution. This programme has been going on, on our planet for 4.5 BY. Whoever these beings are they have no concept of time. I wrote a book ‘Everything we know is wrong,' and I still believe that. We are like ants relative to what is out there.”

Michael Tellinger adds : “I believe the university of Melbourne recently published a paper where they show that the laws of physics is not the same throughout the universe. They change. The laws of physics in the way that we understand it is, only applicable to this little piece of the universe that we live in. It changes all the way throughout the universe. “

Lloyd Pie adds : “I just want to make it clear this idea of coming from the apes and guerrillas, actually science does not say that. Christians say that. Creationists say that to try and make scientists look bad. When you use that argument you really fall into a trap of stupidity. What science says is apes and guerrillas descend from a common ancestor, back before both of them. There was a being and a split, and guerrillas and champs went one path and prehumen's went the other. They never said we were directly related to them in that sense. It was used in particular to discredit Darwin and came into popular use-age during the Scopes Trial in Tennessee, where there were cartoons of Darwin's head on a monkeys body and things like that. It is all politically motivated and it really isn't what science says.”

Michael Tellinger adds : “Since Iron plays such an important part in terraforming, the atomic number of Iron is 26. This ties into what Willem de Swart was saying that the number of Earth from the number of the cube is 26. These are important subtle small coincidences, that doesn't stop there. As Willem showed you the volume of the Earth is 2.6 x 10 to the power of 11. These things are all connected. Having an open mind is like being pregnant, you can't be half pregnant.”

… * … * … * … * … * … * LLOYD PYE lloydpye.com / starchildproject.com

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